Legislature(2003 - 2004)

05/08/2003 03:35 PM Senate STA

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
           SB 211-REGULATIONS: NOTICE AND DISTRIBUTION                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
CRAIG  TILLERY,   with  the  Department  of  Law,   testified  via                                                              
teleconference.  He explained the  bill relates to  making notices                                                              
for proposed regulations more readable.  It is designed to improve                                                              
public  notice  for  changes  to regulation  and  to  reduce  cost                                                              
through  elimination  of  unnecessary   action,  the  use  of  the                                                              
Internet  and  shortening  notice   periods.  The  full  sectional                                                              
analysis found in the bill file addresses four basic changes:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
    · Changes the requirements in the Administrative Procedure                                                                  
      Act for publishing notice                                                                                                 
    · Makes notice distribution consistent across agencies                                                                      
    · Newspaper notices may be omitted for certain specialized                                                                  
      subject areas in which Internet notification would be                                                                     
      better suited                                                                                                             
    · Changes the requirements for distribution of the                                                                          
      Administrative Code to local government units                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GARY STEVENS  noted  the savings  aren't  reflected in  the                                                              
fiscal note.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TILLERY said  there is  a revised  fiscal  note indicating  a                                                              
$258,000  savings  and  it's  possible   it  wasn't  sent  to  the                                                              
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GARY STEVENS  confirmed they  hadn't  received the  revised                                                              
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LYMAN HOFFMAN pointed out  that one copy of the AAC should                                                              
be made  available at no  charge to cities  that request  one. The                                                              
state   would  still   realize  a   savings   if  copies   weren't                                                              
automatically sent to all communities.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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MR.  TILLERY  replied  there  are  three ways  to  get  copies.  A                                                              
community  could go  online and print  a copy  if Internet  access                                                              
were  available, or  a copy  could  be sent  electronically, or  a                                                              
paper copy could  be sent to the community. By  making communities                                                              
pay for  copies they hope  to give them  the incentive to  use the                                                              
most efficient alternative.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HOFFMAN said that wasn't his question.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TILLERY  replied  he  understood  the  question  to  ask  why                                                              
communities should pay.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HOFFMAN restated  his question and asked why  not mail one                                                              
free copy to  communities that request one and  eliminate the cost                                                              
associated   with   automatic   mailings   to   all   communities.                                                              
Additionally,  he  disagreed  with   charging  for  an  electronic                                                              
mailing. Charging communities for  a copy of the code is promoting                                                              
a  lack  of information  and  is  not a  desirable  public  policy                                                              
direction.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TILLERY replied  this approach  represents a  savings to  the                                                              
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HOFFMAN  said he represents  some 70 communities  and this                                                              
policy change would be a drastic mistake.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT PIERSON, Administrative Code  coordinator in the Lieutenant                                                              
Governor's Office,  said they are working toward  efficient online                                                              
communication.  He said  it's the quarterly  supplements  that are                                                              
sent to  communities that they  believe are frequently  discarded,                                                              
which is  a waste of  state funds. To  date they have  received no                                                              
negative comments  regarding the change,  but they don't  know how                                                              
many of the clerks have read their email outlining the change.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The Administrative  Code is currently online, but  "it's not quite                                                              
perfected yet." They  would like to make improvements  "so that it                                                              
would be  not necessarily official,  but useful for 99  percent of                                                              
any kind of consultation  you would normally take on  a day to day                                                              
basis with the  Administrative Code." When legal  questions arise,                                                              
a city  clerk would consult a  city attorney. They  are continuing                                                              
to offer  the paper  copies because  there are  a few places  that                                                              
don't have Internet access.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The contract  for publishing the  Administrative Code  will expire                                                              
at the end of  2003 and under current language the  state would be                                                              
required  to  buy   about  170  paper  copies   of  the  quarterly                                                              
supplements whether  they extend  the current contract  or request                                                              
proposals  for   a  new  one.   They  would  like   the  increased                                                              
flexibility  to  have a  mix  of  options  to negotiate  with  the                                                              
current publisher and for future contracts.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HOFFMAN  said if  they  were  really trying  to  increase                                                              
accessibility he couldn't  understand why there would  be a charge                                                              
for  electronic  copies.  The  proposed   system  would  offer  no                                                              
incentive  for moving  away  from a  paper  copy if  the city  was                                                              
forced to pay for an electronic copy as well.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GARY STEVENS  asked for  verification  that the  electronic                                                              
copy would be available on a CD ROM and not via email.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. PIERSON said that was the case.  The current cost for the four                                                              
quarterly supplements is $596 per  year and he didn't know whether                                                              
that would burden small communities or not.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GARY STEVENS asked what the price would be for a CD ROM.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. PIERSON  said that  would be  negotiated with the  publishers.                                                              
Currently  there  is  a  CD  ROM   available  that  has  both  the                                                              
Administrative Code  and the statutes. He pointed  out that cities                                                              
are now paying for copies of the  statutes and he looks upon it as                                                              
an historical  accident that  the state is  still paying  for code                                                              
books.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HOFFMAN  pointed  out  it  isn't  necessary  to  put  the                                                              
information on a  CD ROM. It could and should  be freely available                                                              
on the Internet.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MARK  DAVIS,  Director  of Banking  Securities  and  Corporations,                                                              
testified  the bill  would  impact his  division  by allowing  for                                                              
notices regarding proposed regulations  to be made in a simplified                                                              
manner. This  is consistent  in the  trend in administrative  law,                                                              
which reduces  publication costs and uses  simplified notification                                                              
methods to reach individuals that  are interested in commenting on                                                              
proposed regulations.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The proposed change in procedure  would probably save the division                                                              
$7,800 a year and is already being  used by the federal government                                                              
and  some  states.  Section  26 with  regard  to  securities,  and                                                              
section  1 with  respect  to the  revised Trust  Act  would be  of                                                              
particular impact to his division.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
RANDY  REUDRICH   from  the  Alaska   Oil  and  Gas   Conservation                                                              
Commission testified  via teleconference  to advise that  the bill                                                              
would  save the  commission $20,000  a year  in publishing  costs.                                                              
Members  of   the  industry  exclusively  attend   the  commission                                                              
meetings and he does not believe  that the public notices increase                                                              
attendance.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GRETCHEN GUESS  asked Mr.  Reudrich to  clarify that  the                                                              
commission  meetings weren't  held  exclusively  for industry  and                                                              
that they weren't prohibitive of others attending.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  REUDRICH   replied  the  industry,   the  media,   and  other                                                              
interested  parties  who  might attend  have  all  given  positive                                                              
feedback regarding short term updates available electronically.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
LINDA HALL, director of the Division  of Insurance, testified that                                                              
newspaper publications  for public notices have  been unsuccessful                                                              
for  the  division.   She  said  most  of  the   regulations  they                                                              
promulgate  are technical  in nature  and directed  at those  they                                                              
regulate.  The  division  currently  regulates  12,000  registered                                                              
insurance  companies and  just 11  are domiciled  in Alaska;  they                                                              
have  2,500  resident  licensees   and  over  12,000  non-resident                                                              
licensees.  This translates  to only  16 percent  of the  licensed                                                              
agents and one percent of the insurance  companies actually having                                                              
ready  access to  newspaper  publications.  She  observed the  act                                                              
doesn't prohibit  the division  from delivering publications  when                                                              
the matter is in the public interest.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Last year  the Division  of Insurance  spent $9,700 for  newspaper                                                              
advertising and they estimate this  change would save them $7,300.                                                              
They would  continue to do targeted  mailings because they  are an                                                              
effective way to get information out about upcoming hearings.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Although she hasn't  been in the director position  very long, she                                                              
has attended  almost every  Division of  Insurance hearing  in the                                                              
last ten years and can attest that  they aren't widely attended by                                                              
the public, which means the money  spent on newspaper publications                                                              
have not been effective.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GARY STEVENS announced he would hold SB 211 in committee.                                                                 

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